OAT-oxalate

[Terri Bilinsky]

This client’s first OAT showed high oxalic (#21) and within range glyceric (#19). A retest 6 months later shows oxalic marker within range but glyceric is high. How can that be? Isn’t the glyceric indicating genetic hyperoxaluria type II? Why wouldn’t it have been high the 1st time if it’s genetic? if so, wouldn’t the oxalic marker be out of range too? If the glyceric is high, would we assume oxalates are high no matter if oxalic marker is high?

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[Kurt Woeller]

Terri,
The function of the enzyme linked to glyceric is Vitamin B6 dependent. It could be an unexplained functional loss of Vitamin B6 temporarily or some other epigenetic influence on the genetic variant (polymorphism) that exists within the enzyme. There’s a difference between a mutation and a polymorphism and different levels of polymorphism severity. I see glyceric and glycolic elevations periodically where the oxalate value is normal. The oxalate is not always high.

Clinically, does this person exhibit high oxalate problems such as body aches and pains, urinary pain, history of kidney stones, etc.

Sincerely,
Dr. Woeller

[Terri Bilinsky]

THis is a 20 y/o epileptic who just got his VNS removed. SO what you’re describing makes sense. He needs the b6. Incredible findings! His dad requested the VNS be removed which it was. Before hand, the young man was psycotic. He was displaying with joint pain too. His OAT prior to removing it showed high on #3,6,7, 10, 33, 35, 37. The more time there is since the VNS removal, the less symptoms he has. No longer psycotic and OAT retest is showing all of the above high levels are now within range. I’m highly curious if fungus was growing on the VNS within him. Interesting!

[Kurt Woeller]

Terri,
Very interesting.

Why was the VNS used in the first place. For epilepsy? or Psychosis or both.

But, he is now better without it?

Dr. Woeller

[Terri Bilinsky]

VNS was put in place for epilepsy. When he started working with me, one of the many things we brought in was p5p and mag. A gi map indicated a hookworm but he was not in a state of mind to even handle any protocol for that. He was psychotic! His dad and I were thinking he may have to be hospitalized for eradication. We got binders in place but he couldn’t tolerate gi detox. He could tolerate plain charcoal so we used that and modified pectosol c. His dad realized the psychotic behavior started about 4 months after the VNS was inserted. So he decided to get it removed. Yes, he’s much better. No psychotic behavior. His dad is describing him as a ‘night and day difference’. He also has found studies showing lactic acid chelates titanium. His lactic acid on OAT is now high so it makes me wonder if the lactic acid has been used to chelate the titanium. Dad thinks the son is allergic to titanium and is running a metal allergy test (from Germany) on him. This is such an unusual and interesting case! I do think there’s a huge chance there was fungus growing on the VNS causing major issues for him. Again, ALL fungal markers are normal. We have not done any fungal protocol.

[Kurt Woeller]

Terri,
Wow. Very unique case.

There are so many possibilities, but one of things I wonder is could the VNS have made it more probably that the vagus nerve could transfer bacterial toxins from the gastrointestinal system to the brain. It’s known that the vagus is involved in connecting the microbiome-gut-brain axis.

Dr. Woeller

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